sinned-4-life asked: I just wanna say that I'm really proud of this blog for standing up for female gamers, like me. It really makes me upset to see the Warhammer fanbase behaving in such a manner towards female gamers; I honestly expected better. Male-dominated or otherwise, I shouldn't feel like I'm being belittled just because I play the game. I may not care as much, but this is important to other people and, like you, I will gladly even join arms (I play Eldar) with brother, sister or anyone who needs it.
Thank you, sister! Do not be discouraged by these pathetic attempts to devalue the conversation and positive points being made. These sad, cowardly and unintelligent individuals add nothing to the fan community while still believing it is necessary for them to flex their insufficient knowledge whenever the canon comes into scrutiny. Whether they like it or not, there IS a solution to making women a bigger part of this game and that includes making them on the SAME LEVEL as the currently all-male Astartes. Not only physically, but with the range of stories and depth of characters as well. This is something everyone deserves. Especially in a fantasy/sci fi universe that tries to represent so many different facets of human culture.
That said, the responses I’ve read around the blogs and the messages I’ve received have been overwhelmingly positive. There are a lot of supportive and true warriors of the Emperor out there. Many more than the vocal minority. In fact, I have dispatched a coterie of Tech Priests to the locations of the cowards to have them lobotomized and turned into lifting servitors. They will clean the grox stables.
Thanks again to everyone who had an intelligent supportive thing to say. Keep checking http://equalgaming.tumblr.com
The Emperor protects.
So uh.. Good luck with that? Regardless, I’d suggest you get cross with George Lucas for having the clone troopers solely being men, when surely they could’ve tampered with the clone embryo to make women?
This is creating an issue where energy could be spent elsewhere on more pressing matters than a hobby with comically large men.
Are men meant to scream sexism when we see these superhumans due to them having ridiculous standards? No, just as extreme a claim.
You’re not getting sorori-startes.
Nobody likes an extremist.
Supporting 50% of the population and talking about ways to make a hobby more accessible to anyone regardless of gender is not an extremist view. Dismissing it as such is. You are childish and not wanted anywhere at any time. Show some respect.
As dubious as i am about the alteration of the fluff to allow for female marines, i am disappointed to see the immaturity of those who are also in defence of the lore. There are better ways to get across arguments than just resorting to dismissal and insults. I apologise on behalf of my less-civilised brothers and sisters. Emperor be with you.
And female marines might be the answer or might not. It’s about equalizing the tabletop. There’s no reason a creative solution cannot be found. People who are quick to dismiss don’t have the wisdom to see this.
Clone-troopers vs. Marines is a faulty comparison for a start.
In terms of models, there’s no real reason why we can’t just use the standard kits - the Marines are encased in armour that would obscure mose physical differences.
Further to that, the genetic engineering and cybernetic modification done to an astartes would basically obliterate any differences in bodies - leaving aside what already happens to professional female body builders (in silhouette they do not have any “feminine” traits) the Imperium would be about crafting perfect warriors without regard for preserving a gender identity.
Oh, and the hormones released during the kind of excercise regimen they do would cause the facial features to become more “masculine”.
So model-wise, we don’t need knew models unless you want to make a massive deal out of their femininity, and would likely amount to sticking breasts on a Space Marine.
In terms of fluff, there is -again - nothing really holding us back. EVERYthing in 40k is canon, even the stuff that’s not. The Emperor may have crafted His sons, but why not daughters? It could be a big reveal that, say, Robute was a woman.
Furthermore, the Mechanicus are already tinkering with gene-seed AND with genetic engineering in general, so it would be relatively easy to introduce fem-marines.
The Adeptus Astartes are about creating the perfect warrior out of a human. With the tinkering done to achieve this, the stock body’s gender is not really an issue.
Marines are hard to write for - Heresy Era is easier because it humanises Marines a bit, but they are still generally unrelatable. Things like gender would also be largely irrelevant to Marines except when they interact with other forces. That could be interesting, but the Marine’s responding to it would likely fall flat.
Women are generally poorly written in most media and the Black Library is doubly dubious (not JUST because of Ward).
So I anticipate that if female Marines were introduced, we’d end up regretting it because of how badly the fluff would be handled.
I see no reason why there can’t be female Marines - and I think there should be. However we would need to be very careful when crafting the fluff because of the massive potential for pooch-screwing.